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the government of India shook to its very this; Sir, has been accomplished, and basis. All this has followed the breach more. But will the right hon. gentle. of the convention of El Arish; and all man doubt the zeal and ambition and these achievements have been accom- emulation of the Frst Consul of France plished by Buonaparté without a fleet! with these heroes of antiquity? Will he But this is not all. The breach of this doubt the pride and spirit of the conquerer convention will stain the page of British of Lodi? the conqueror of Marenge history, and alter the map of the world. the conqueror of Italy? the conqueror of Let us only turn our eyes to the confede. Austria? the conqueror of Egypt? the racy now sprung up in the North; and, representative of Alexander and Hannibal above all, let us observe the disinclination in one? the man who has Hannibalized St. which Paul exhibits to suffering the Turks Bernard? Let him be doubted. Depend to co-operate with us in Egypt. Let us on it the confederate ambition of Paul and look at the strict friendship and alliance of Buonaparte will form a Greek empire Paul 1st. and the First Consul of France. Constantinople; will open thereby a pa Every gentleman must know, that that sage for Buonaparté to India, wherefrom Northern despot, like all his progenitors, will ensue the conquest of India, the conhas long cherished the idea that Con- sequent ruin of Great Britain, and the stantinople is a part of his inheritance; probable subjugation of the world. May and Buonaparté encourages his plans to 1, Sir, not survive the period which may farther his own gigantic strides. Buona- bring such ruin and disgrace on my bleed. parté has by the expedition to Egypt, aud ing country! But what is the chance? his plans on India, identified his character what are the consequences of the conver with Alexander, who did march from tion of El Arish? The confederacy of Egypt into India. We learn from Hero- kings is broken; that rope of sand, moist dotus, that Alexander invaded Hindostan ened with the blood of millions and the with an army of more than 100,000 men; tears of Europe, from the Euxine to the and Arrian tells us, that his line of opera- Atlantic, is dissolved. After the loss of tion was across the north of Persia from several thousand of her soldiers by drownthe Caspian sea to the river Indus. He ing, conflagration and rebellion, and crossed the Indus about Attock, and after-after having reddened the ocean, and of wards its nearest branch the Hydaspes or fered up human hecatombs as a sacrifice Jeham, in defiance of that great potentate to the pride and intemperance of his Porus; after advancing, and wantonly majesty's ex-ministers, Great Britain sees ravaging 200 miles of the country, Alex-a most powerful and avenging conspiracy ander was wounded, and returned (his risen against her. O! my bleeding, my troops being harassed by victories) to dear country! thou art weighed in the Persia. To continue the line of argument, as to the probability of the invasion of India from Egypt-Seventeen centuries appear to have elapsed from Alexander to the second great invasion of India by Tamerlane. This man of blood was born near Samarcand, between the Caspian and the Indus, and boasted his descent from the ferocious Mogul Tartar, Zinghis Khan. This man first attacked his neighbours and Persia, and then set out from Samarcand with an army of 90,000 cavalry to invade India. This army crossed the Indus near Attock, and advanced to Delhi. Tamerlane had ascertained by his spies the weakness and anarchy of the Delhi country, and he succeeded by a decisive victory in becoming master of the metropolis. After erecting a triumphal pyramid of ninety thousand human skulls, he returned to Samarcand, and 100 years after his descendants successfully renewed their bloody patent to the throne of Delhi. All

balance against most of the nations of the earth! Mayst thou not kick the beam! May the genius of thy former prosperity not forsake thee in adversity! May he bring peace and plenty to thy starving sons, and restore humanity, moderation, economy and justice to the councils of the best, the most benevolent, the most religious, and, thank God, now convale scent, sovereign, that ever sat on the throne of England! Now, I most unfeignedly thank the House for their indulgence, and move, "That a Committee be appointed to inquire into the causes of the breach of the Convention of El Arish."

Mr. Dundas said, he did not feel any resentment at the honest warmth, zeal, and even indignation with which the hon. gen tleman had expressed himself, though much of it had been directed against his conduct in his late official situation; be cause it had been produced by a suppo

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the French paper, containing the correspondence between sir Sidney Smith and general Kleber. From that paper, published by the French government, for the very purpose of attaching on this country a breach of faith relative to the convention of El Arish, it did appear that sir Sidney, in his correspondence with Kleber, signed himself plenipotentiary of his Britannic majesty. It, however, appeared, from that very correspondence, that Kleber himself did not think that sir Sidney had any powers to negociate; for he expresses his doubts about the efficacy of any pass ports which might be granted by him. How sir Sidney came to think that he had powers, or by what means he convinced general Kleber that he had authority to grant passports, he could not pretend to know; but he did know for a certainty, that he had no such powers or authority. The only points in this question were, had sir Sidney powers, either as a plenipotentiary, or as a military officer, to con clude such a convention? And had ministers any information of such a conven tion being concluded when the instruc tions were sent to lord Keith? The first time that ministers had any reason to think that such a convention might be proposed, was in December 1799. They immedi ately sent such instructions on the subject to lord Keith, not to sir Sidney Smith, for he had no command in chief, but only commanded a detachment of lord Keith's fleet. This country was at that time in alliance with Russia and Austria, as well as the Ottoman Porte; and it was the duty of ministers to take care, as far as pos sible, of the interests of its allies. The evacuation of Egypt was desirable; but it was their duty to prevent, and they saw the importance of preventing, the return of the French army in Egypt to France, where it would immediately have been employed to act against the Russians and Austrians in Italy, or in Germany. The instructions sent to lord Keith therefore were, that if any convention for the evacuation of Egypt should be proposed, he should agree to it; but, at the same time, not to consent that the French army should be sent back to France. Lord Keith did not receive these instructions till February 1800; and before that time sir Sidney had concluded a convention, which, as the ministry were conscious that he had no powers to conclude, they could not anticipate being concluded. He immediately, and with great propriety, sent home sir

sition that this country had been guilty of a breach of faith. He would assure the House, that he felt very easy under all the opprobrium which had been heaped upon his conduct as a member of the late administration, respecting the convention of El Arish, and under all the threats of evil to the country which had been anticipated from that convention not having been carried into effect, because he was conscious, that there existed no ground for them, and that the hon. gentleman was under a complete misapprehension of the whole transaction. There was no breach of the convention concluded for the evacuation of Egypt; there was no violation of good faith on the part of this country. He would repeat what he had said when this subject was discussed last year, that sir Sidney Smith had no powers to conclude any such convention. Sir Sidney had powers only to act as a military officer in Egypt. He had previously a command in the Mediterranean; his brother, Mr. Spencer Smith, was then British minister at Constantinople; and when he was sent to take the command of the British force on the coast of Egypt, it was thought proper, in order to add something to his dignity in that situation, to place him with his brother, as British plenipotentiary for the conclusion of the defensive treaty of alliance between this country and the Ottoman Porte, which had been solicited by the latter power. Special powers were granted him for this purpose; but as soon as that treaty was signed, his powers as a plenipotentiary were at an end, and he had no powers to go beyond that single act. Indeed, he conceived that the thing must speak for itself. For, before the convention of El Arish, lord Elgin had gone to Constantinople as representative of his majesty with the Ottoman Porte; and, of consequence, both sir Sidney Smith and his brother were superseded in any diplomatic character which they might before that have held. But any detail upon this subject appeared to him completely unnecesary, as he would declare from his own knowledge the simple fact, that sir Sidney had no powers whatever, but those which were special for signing the defensive alliance with the Ottoman Porte. He would, however, allow that the hon. gentleman had stronger ground to go upon, in what he had said this night, than he had when he formerly brought the same subject before the House; and this ground was drawn from

John Douglas in a frigate with the intelli- | gence. Ministers remained of the same opinion, as to the policy of such a convention; they were of opinion, that he had acted improperly and without authority, and that the convention he had concluded was unfavourable to the interests of this country. But, as they found that a British officer had interfered, and (whether with proper powers or not) had ratified the convention, they thought it better for the honour of the British name to agree to it. They were guilty of no breach of faith; on the contrary, they confirmed the convention, because they saw that the French, trusting to its validity, might have given up some of their strong posts, which could not be restored to them in the same state. He had seen the French paper from which the hon. gentleman had derived his authority for asserting that this country had been guilty of a breach of faith. But he could assure the House, that the statement which he had now given was the simple history of the case. He knew that pains had been taken to impress a belief that this country had been guilty of a violation of the faith of treaties. He, therefore, if the hon. gentleman would withdraw his motion, would have no objection to the production of all the instructions given to sir Sidney Smith and to lord Keith. He knew that the production of them would vindicate this country from the unjust aspersions which had been thrown upon it. He by no means disapproved of the warmth, zeal, and anger manifested by the hon. gentleman, because they resulted from a jealousy for the honour of the British character; but he conceived it to be wholly unnecessary for him to enter into a minute examination of all the points upon which the hon. gentleman had enlarged, and his fears for our East India possessions; because all that he had said was founded on a misapprehension, which he trusted was now done away. But the hon. gentleman had done more than express his fears, he had displayed his skill in geography, and had chalked out, for the information of the French, all the routes which had been

followed from the days of Alexander to those of Tamerlane, from Egypt to India. He wished the French were out of Egypt; but his apprehensions from their temporary possession of that country, and for our possessions in India, were not so strong as those of the hon. gentleman; and he trusted that the good fortune of this

country, and the skill and bravery of the officers and troops now employed in an expedition for that purpose, would soon relieve us from all apprehensions.

Mr. Sheridan said, he could not help remarking, how extraordinary it was that the right hon. gentlemen should now volunteer what, not many months ago, they had obstinately refused. It was then said that the production of those papers was unnecessary, and would be highly dangerous. But they had been then in office-now they must lower their tone-" Projicit ampullas et sesquipedalia verba." The right hon. gentleman had spoken of the warmth of his hon friend. He did not know whether his hon. friend was always suaviter in modo, but certainly he was always fortiter in re. Of all the acts of the late administration, this was the most disgraceful to the national bonour, and the most productive of public calamity. The right hon. gentleman had complained that his hon. friend had given information to Buonaparte. It was, to be sure, a most atrocious act, to add to the geographical knowledge of the poor, ignorant, pitiful Buonaparté, and to inform him, that there had been such men as Alexander and Tamerlane! He had heard of many state secrets, but that the route from Syria to Indostan was a state secret he never before could have conjectured.-Mr. Sheridan then went into a justification of the conduct of sir Sidney Smith. It must be presumed, he said, that he had acted agreeably to his in structions, till it was proved that he had transgressed them. That he had not, was evident from the pension which had been lately conferred upon him. What! reward a man who had entrapped the enemy, who had incensed our allies, who had dishonoured the British name, and brought innumerable calamities upon his country! If ministers had been in the right, they would not have been slack in laying the blame upon him; but they knew that they themselves were answer able for all that had happened. He must have had these powers: all our comman ders possessed and exercised them. It was universally believed that he acted under them at home and abroad; ministers must have been aware that he might have concluded such a convention. But a rash presumption was excited in their minds by the Intercepted Corres pondence. After reprobating the preface, Mr. S. adverted to the statements

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of this publication, many of which, he | said, had turned out to be extremely illfounded. Among other things it was said that M. Tallien had lost an eye; but gentlemen must now be convinced that he had a pair of very good eyes [alluding to the eager manner in which members had flocked to the gallery to gaze upon this celebrated stranger]. There could be no doubt that Kleber would have scrupulously fulfilled the convention on his part. He probably would have lost his head upon his return to France; but such was his scrupulous regard to honour, that he would have adhered to his engagements whatever might have been the consequence. The subsequent consent of ministers he attributed not to good faith, but to the successes of the French in Italy, which rendered the acquisition of troops of little value, and to the representations made by sir John Douglas, of the formidable position of the army of the East. The right hon. gentleman wished the French out of Egypt; but would it not be strange, if one man wished another out of a room to bar the windows and lock the door? In Egypt, however, the French were, and there, he feared, they would for ever remain.

Lord Hawkesbury said, that in the course of the last session this same question had been discussed: on that occasion he had thought the explanation of his right hon. friend perfectly satisfactory as to the charge of breach of faith; but circumstances had since come to light which rendered further inquiry necessary. The papers published by the French government, charging this country with a breach of faith, rendered it necessary, that all the papers upon the subject should be produced. He should therefore have no objection to the production of them; and if the hon. gentleman would withdraw his motion, he would move one, the operation of which would be much more extensive. His lordship then enumerated the different documents that he would consent to produce. After which he proceeded to argue, that sir Sidney Smith was not, by his situation, entitled to exercise the powers of a plenipotentiary.

Mr. Pitt said, he hoped that, out of office, he should show himself as ready as ever he had been when in office, to resist the production of any papers for which there was laid no parliamentary ground, or in the production of which there was danger, or any material public inconve

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nience. This principle he had uniformly acted upon, and upon it he was determined to act; it had applied to the very subject which was now before the House: but since that time, a difference had taken place, which, whether in or out of office, would have made a difference in his mind as to the course that was to be pursued. There were published certain papers, in which sir Sidney Smith was introduced as having given colour to the idea that he assumed the character of a plenipotentiary, and, as such, concluded a treaty with general Kleber at El-Arish. There was now, in favour of the motion for official information on that subject, what was wanting before-that was, security against the public inconvenience by giving it; and as that was so, he was as ready to grant, as formerly he had found himself bound to refuse, the information called for. The papers upon this occasion should be to the fullest extent, and they were so, as they had been stated by his noble friend. They went to the extent of showing the instructions given to sir Sidney Smith, and also those given to lord Keith. It would also be proper to produce the proclamation issued by sir Sidney during the attack on Acre; by which it was said, he knew perfectly what he was doing, and that it was a strange thing if he did it without instructions. He should be glad that the House should see it, and if he was not mistaken, it would turn out thus: that sir Sidney, commanding at Acre, published a proclamation, signifying, that if any of the French besieging army should desert and come to him, he would give them passports by which they might return in safety to Europe. Now if this were so, all that remained to be said upon that subject was, that if gentlemen on the other side of the House could show that this made sir Sidney a state minister; if they could show, that publishing a proclamation to encourage desertion from the enemy made him a minister plenipotentiary, then their argument was good, but not otherwise. Sir Sidney had no power to be a party to this convention, so much talked of. The power he had was confined clearly within the limits stated by his right hon. friend, and when that was performed he was functus officio. That he was a commander (but not in chief), was true; he had no special or full power; and the question, if there could be any, would be, whether his general power gave him authority to enter into any conven

tion in Egypt? The instructions to lord | even of scrupulous delicacy. As to a Keith were given on the idea that the captious disposition at any mistake aris French might apply to the grand vizier ing from misapprehension of the extent for a convention, by which they might be of British officers power, it was repug. permitted to quit Egypt and come to nant to his nature, and he should be sorry Europe, the which, if it had been agreed if the House, or any part of the country, to, could not be binding on us; it could thought, that because sir Sidney had not dispose of the right we had to attack acted in the manner he had done, without the enemy by sea, for they could not, by authority, and exposed his majesty's then any convention of theirs, make the seas ministers to the unmerited opprobrium neutral. It was apprehended by us, that which for a time they had borne, they such an attempt would be made, and that would on that account feel resentment the view of it was to take away a French against him; or that any mistake, where army in Egypt, and to plant it in Italy. the intention was honourable, could There was no power to do so under any cancel in his breast, or in the breasts maxim in the law of nations, nor under of those with whom he acted, the feelthe rules of common sense or plain jus- ings they had once cherished on the tice, because it was the act of two powers, conduct of an officer, who had added by which the interest of a third (no party to the glory of the British arms. So far to it) was most materially to be affected; was he from being of that opinion, that and therefore it was that lord Keith was he wished the hon. mover might be able instructed as he had been; and yet, in to carry in the India-house, a measure by that stage of the transaction, we directed, which that which was at first intended to that if passports should actually be given, be granted to sir Sidney might be doubled and the ships should be met with, they in amount; for the glorious achievements should not be treated as prisoners of war, at Acre were not to be set aside by the but taken to the army from which they mistake at El-Arish; the one was a mere came. Now, he begged leave to observe, misconception of power, the other was a that there was no reason for believing, brilliant display of military talent, which either that general Kleber or sir Sidney extended the fame of a renowned British Smith himself, thought he had the power naval officer, and added to the triumphs of entering into this convention as com- of his country. mander in chief, or otherwise, until sir Sidney represented himself as having that power, which erroneously he thought afterwards he had. As to what had been said on our not being auxiliaries, but principals in the convention, the hon. mover had read some papers with an audible voice; but he would find that the opinion of that very respectable officer was against him in that point. Sir Sidney thought he was acting as plenipotentiary; but the papers would show that he was not; he acted, indeed, on an honourable but mistaken principle. Gentlemen then asked, why government did not proceed criminally against sir Sidney Smith? and they said they thought, if he had so far exceeded his powers, they ought so to proceed He thought otherwise. But although there was a total absence of power in sir Sidney to conclude this convention, we did not hesitate to direct the carrying it into effect; in doing which, instead of having stained the character of the British ministry, or the country which they represented, and injured their reputation for good faith-they had afforded a memorable example of such faith, and

Mr. George Ponsonby admitted, that in the papers which the noble lord was wil ling to produce, almost all was contained that would be essential. It was said, that the French government had published certain letters which tended in some de gree to implicate the character of this coun try, and that the production of the papers in question was necessary to vindicate its honour. But what sort of language was this in the mouth of the right hon. gentleman, who had spent years in reprobating whatever was connected with the French government, and who had represented its statements as utterly unworthy of all cre dit or regard? Was it consistent for a right hon. gentleman who had held such language, to come forward now, and say that a charge made by this very govern ment was a sufficient reason for the pro duction of papers which had for their object to free the country from the imputa tation of a criminal violation of good faith? The assertions of a government whose statements had hitherto been des cribed as unworthy of the smallest regard, were a sufficient reason for producing the papers; while the fatal consequences of

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