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But in so far as right goes, extra 801 would be perfectly justified in proceeding to Salem upon receipt of Crder No. 79, for the reason that orders addressed to one train cannot and should not be executed by another, and when a train dispatcher creates an extra it is his duty to there and then protect that extra from any and all opposing extras that may be on the road, and he should not rely upon any orders that may have been issued to that outfit when they were running extra at any time in the past to protect them under the new movement. It is now and always has been the principle of the standard code, or in fact of all train rules, that when a train reaches its terminal, whether such terminal is fixed by train order or by schedule, that all orders held by such train become of non-effect for the reason that the train has no longer any standing under the rules and therefore cannot execute order. In the case of an extra, when they reach the terminal named in the order, their condition is exactly the same as a regular train. It may be the extra train outfit will remain at their terminal one minute or one hour or one day before they are given another order to proceed, but their standing remains the same, they are a new train and no matter how long a time or how short a time they have been at that terminal before they are given orders to proceed, they must be treated as a new train. It is true that the extra will bear the same number as when they arrived there but that should have no bearing, as that engine will always be the same numbered extra whenever run extra.

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But for the reason that not all dispatchers, or for that matter, not all officials, are sufficiently posted upon the rules to clearly understand this point, it is wise to take the safe course and ask about the other extra to make sure that the dispatcher understands your privileges under the rules.

EDITOR FORUM-We will adopt standard rules here on March 1, 1909, and there are some differences of opinion. I would like to have your ruling on the following questions. North-bound trains have the right of track by direction:

No. 6, north-bound, A to D; No. 3, south

bound, D to A-both first-class trains. B is time-table meeting point for Nos. 6 and 3. At A No. 6 gets an order that second No. 3 will have right of track over No. 6, D to B; first No. 3 has nothing on No. 6. Second No. 3 overtook first No. 3 at C, unable to make B for No. 6. Could first No. 3 flag ahead of second No. 3 to B, or would No. 6 have a right to proceed? C is a blind siding. M. M.

San Antonio, Tex.

ANSWER-Under the new rules, second No. 3 can take first No. 3 ahead of them to the meeting point, or at least to the first telegraph office.

Rule 94 reads as follows: "When a train unable to proceed against the right or schedule of an opposing train is overtaken between telegraph stations by an inferior train, or a train of the same class, having right or schedule which permits it to proceed, the delayed train may, after proper consultation with the following train, precede it to the next telegraph station, where it must report to the superintendent."

Rule 95 is also concerned in this, and reads as follows: Two or more sections may be run on the same schedule. Each section has equal time-table authority."

Under the above rules, second No. 3 is a train within the meaning of the rule and it has equal time-table authority, or equal right to schedule, in other words its schedule is good until restricted by orders addressed to them the same as any other section. So when second No. 3 overtakes first section they are a train of the same class with right whic permits them to proceed, so they come within the scope of the rule and may take first No. 3 ahead of them.

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ANSWER-From the wording of the order it is evident that for some reason it was desirable to have first No. 34 run ahead of the regular schedule time of No. 34 from Y to Z; and it also looks as though Eng. 658 did not receive a copy of Order No. 8. At any rate, Orde. No. 8 is not a standard order.

Order No. 8 does not give No. 33 any right over No. 34's schedule or any section of No. 34's schedule. In effect, it annuls Eng. 658 as first section of No. 34, but this does not in any way restrict the superiority of the schedule between Y and Z and most certainly does not authorize any train to proceed against the first or any following section of No. 34. While the order is not standard it must be interpreted as though it was a standard order, for any other interpretation would lead to confusion. Supposing that there are two sections of No. 34. When second section arrives at Y they get an order that Eng. 658 is annulled as first No. 34 from Y to Z, and this order is authority for them to proceed Y to Z as No. 34; or if there are three sections of No. 34, the order they get at Y authorizes the second and third sections to proceed Y to Z as first and second sections of No. 34, hence it will be seen that Order No. 8 does not and must not authorize No. 33 to

proceed against No. 34 or any section of No. 34

Dispatchers should, whenever possible, use the standard forms of train orders, as their meaning is fully explained and a clear understanding is thereby insured for all concerned. In the case under consideration the order should have read, "Eng. 658 is withdrawn as first No. 34 at Y; following sections change numbers accordingly. Eng. 658 run extra Y to Z with right over No. 33." Order No. 8 and the order the dispatcher should have used mean the same thing, but the standard order is less liable to mislead.

The principle reason why Order No. 8 is misleading is because it contains the word "annulled" and trainmen having learned the use of the word under form "K" cannot get away from the meaning always given it under that form, to the effect that when a schedule is once annulled it cannot be again restored. This, of course, is true under form "K," but not true when a cer tain engine is "annulled" as a certain section. This proceedure simply annuls the engine as such section but does not annul the right for such a section to run. The word "withdrawn" for such purposes is much better, as it expresses exactly what is desired.

OFFICIAL

CHANGES

W. N. Mitchell has been appointed general manager of the Williamsville, Greenville & St. Louis.

John P. Ramsey, vice-president and general manager of the Chicago, Peoria & St. Louis, has been elected president.

C. B. Hibbard, formerly general manager of the Quebec, Montreal & Southern, has been elected second vice-president of the Quebec Eastern.

H. P. Greenough, superintendent of the Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific, at Dalhart, Tex., has been appointed superintendent at Des Moines, Iowa.

J. B. Wallace has been appointed superintendent of the Coahuila & Pacific and Saltillo divisions of the Mexican Central, with office at Saltillo, Mex.

S. B. Zartman, trainmaster of the Seaboard Air Line at Richmond, Va., has been transferred to Jacksonville, Fla. A. Ramseur succeeds Mr. Zartman.

F. S. Guthrie, assistant superintendent of the Houston division of the Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio, has been appointed terminal trainmaster at San Antonio, Tex.

W. H. Stillwell, assistant trainmaster of the Chicago Great Western at St. Joseph, Mo., has been appointed trainmaster of the St. Paul & Des Moines, with office at Iowa Falls, Iowa.

W. C. Welch, trainmaster of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy at Creston, Iowa, has been appointed assistant superintendent of the Brookfield division, with office at Brookfield, Mo.

C. B. Wilburn, general superintendent of the Atlanta, Birmingham & Atlantic, with office at Brunswick, Ga., has been appointed superintendent of the Birmingham division, with office at Talladega, Ala.

The line of the Mexican Central between Tuxpan and Manzanillo was turned over on December I to the operating department of the Mexican Central, and all employes on the Tuxpan-Manzanillo line report to the proper officers of the Mexican Central.

J. A. Macgregor has been appointed superintendent of the Fourth district of the Canadian Pacific.

D. D. Freeborn has been appointed terminal superintendent of the Mexican Central at Juarez and El Paso, Tex.

F. W. Rothas has been appointed chief dispatcher of the Montana division of the Oregon Short Line, with office at Pocatello, Idaho.

H. W. Sheridan, assistant superintendent of the Sacramento division of the Southern Pacific, has been appointed superintendent of that division.

D. T. Crawford, trainmaster of the Union Pacific at Kansas City, Mo., has been appointed trainmaster of the Missouri Pacific, at Cornell, Kan.

W. H. Newman, president of the New York Central & Hudson River and of most of its subsidiary companies, has resigned, effective February 1, 1909.

E. M. Graham, agent of the Norfolk & Western at Norfolk, Va., has been appointed general agent and superintendent of terminals at Norfolk.

George S. Cantilo, superintendent of car service of the Canadian Pacific, has been appointed also general superintendent of car service, with office at Montreal, Que.

S. E. Burkhead, inspector of transportation of the International & Great Northern, has been appointed assistant superintendent of the Gulf division, his former office having been abolished.

R. Beeth, chief train dispatcher of the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe at Dodge City, Kan., has been appointed trainmaster of the El Paso & Southwestern at Tucumcari, New Mexico.

C. S. Maharg, superintendent of the Canadian Pacific at Saskatoon, Sask., has been transferred as superintendent to Medicine Hat, Alb. T. R. Flett, superintendent at Brandon, Man., succeeds Mr. Maharg, and W. J. Uren, chief dispatcher at Winnipeg, Man., succeeds Mr. Flett.

W. S. Kirby, superintendent of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy at Ottumwa, Iowa, has been appointed superintendent at Aurora, Ill. W. F. Thiehoff will be superintendent at Brookfield, Mo.

C. H. Doorley is appointed assistant superintendent, H. A. Milligan is appointed trainmaster, and W. C. Thurber is appointed assistant trainmaster of the Chicago, Lake Shore & Eastern Railway.

Allan Purvis, superintendent of the Fourth district, Central division, of the Canadian Pacific, with office at Souris, Man., has been appointed superintendent of the Third district, Pacific division, with office at Nelson, B. C.

Ernest R. Bissell, superintendent of the Lake Erie & Western at Muncie, Ind., has been appointed superintendent of the Peoria division, with office at Lafayette, Ind. J. W. O'Brien, trainmaster at Lima, Ohio, succeeds Mr. Bissell.

Horace G. Burt, who has been employed by the English debenture stockholders to make a physical examination of the Chicago Great Western, has been appointed receiver, succeeding A. B. Stickney, who has resigned as receiver but remains president.

L. C. Ullrich has been appointed assistant to the general manager of the Southern Railway, with office in Washington, D. C. He is to have general charge of the office, the purchasing and distribution of fuel, the dining car department, and will also perform such other duties as may be assigned to him.

S. G. Strickland, general superintendent of the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha, with office at St. Paul, Minn., has been appointed assistant general superintendent of the Chicago & North-Western lines east of the Missouri river, with office at Chicago. F. R. Pechin, superintendent of the Wisconsin division of the Chicago & North-Western, succeeds Mr. Strickland. G. W. Dailey, superintendent of telegraph on the North-Western, succeeds Mr. Pechin. William Bennett, assistant division superintendent at Antigo, Wis., succeeds Mr. Dailey. W. F. Armstrong, assistant division superintendent at Escanaba, Mich., succeeds Mr. Bennett. C. E. Helmer, trainmaster at Escanaba, Mich., succeeds Mr. Armstrong, and W. J. Keating succeeds Mr. Helmer.

R. N. Elliott has been appointed terminal superintendent of the Mexican Central at Manzanillo and will have charge of all terminal service, including station, wharves, yards and custom house.

J. D. Brennan, trainmaster of the Gulf division of the International & Great Northern, at Palestine, Tex., has been appointed assistant superintendent of the Houston division of the Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio.

S. H. Shults, assistant division superintendent of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy at Brookfield, Mo., has been appointed superintendent of the Brookfield division, succeeding W. F. Thiehoff, promoted.

M. H. Reynolds, for the last two years in the dispatching and train service offices of the Guadalajara division of the Mexican Central, has been appointed chief dispatcher of the Mexican Railway, with office at Mexico City.

L. B. Lyman, superintendent of the Sterling division of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, at Sterling, Neb., has been appointed superintendent of the Wymore division, with office at Wymore, Neb. W. M. Weidenhamer, trainmaster at McCook, Neb., succeeds Mr. Lyman.

A. Galloway, chief inspector of trains and station service of the Southern Pacific, has been appointed general superintendent of the Ocean Shore Railway, with office at San Francisco, Cal. Mr. Galloway has been with the Southern Pacific for five years, and previous to that had been superintendent of the Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton for eleven years.

H. J. Temple, superintendent of the Cananea, Yaqui River & Pacific, has been appointed superintendent of the Sonora Railway, with office at Nogales, Sonora, Mex. A. R. Oster will have jurisdiction over the operated lines of the Cananea, Yaqui River & Pacific and Southern Pacific in Mexico, from Empalme south. The line between Zorillo and del Rio has been placed in operation, and the entire line of the Cananea, Yaqui River & Pacific from Lomas Junction to del Rio has become a part of the Cananea division, and will be under the jurisdiction of Mr. Temple.

R. E. Comfort, superintendent of the Interoceanic of Mexico at Puebla, Puebla, Mex., has been appointed general superintendent.

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